Operation Stop Being Fat

Since the previous post obviously went right to shit (besides of course Marc's movies and Brock's children of Iraq picture), here comes a new one to introduce "Operation Stop Being Fat."  Inspired by Matt Church's inspirational goal to not only stop drinking and smoking (scroll down to "Doctor's Revenge"), but also start walking, I decided to get off my ass.  So, everyday at 6pm I'm going to go to Seneca Park and get the ol' heart going.  You are more than welcome to join me.  What I promise:

  • I won't be running fast.  It's been five years since I've ran, I've busted up my knees and I weigh 40lbs heavier than during my cross country career. 
  • <earmuffs>There will be hot chicks.  And while they are running, hot chicks are too focused on their splits and/or music to realize their "someone is staring at my ass"-dar is going off.  Good times</earmuffs>
  • You'll get some sun.
  • You'll get tired. 
  • You'll get sore.
  • You'll wish you were dead
  • You'll do it the next day and it'll be easier.

Anyways, I need to get off my fatty fat ass and get moving.  If anyone wants to join me at 6pm, drop me a line.  I plan on being there everyday (besides monday of course).  I don't plan on taking more than one hour or so to be out there, so it's not like you'll be missing much.  I also plan on getting to the point that in perhaps July I can run some road races (3.1 miles).  Perhaps we'll have enough for Team Natty Sci.

Some pointers if you want to join me:

  1. I'd recommend some running shoes.  I'd recommend heading off to Fleet Feet on Bardstown Rd and have them help you get some shoes that fit your running style.
  2. Drink water (duh)
  3. Don't eat after 2pm (oh, you'll regret it)
  4. Drink water

Oh yeah, the ladies are more than welcome to join us.  I plan on running at speeds only witnessed by the Presentation JV Cross Country team.

Posted by Phil on May 6th, in the afternoon | 101 comments


Tom Jones on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 4:04 PM

That's why I belong to a gym. Indoor, plenty of free water, don't have to worry about getting hit by motorists, and plenty of MILFS. The only down side is that I do pay a membership fee.

mowgli on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 4:42 PM

dude, you know I'm game, but I suck at running...ok maybe I don't suck, but I hate it...

Phil on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 6:27 PM

hey, if anyone wants to also join a gym that's cool. but running shalt be done outdoors.

Church on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 7:47 PM

You ought to do the scenic loop, many fine pieces of scenery. I would join, if only my knees weren't blow out and my lungs blackened.

Church on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 7:52 PM

Hey Phil, I bet there are still some area high schools you could run third man for in your current state of fitness.

Brock on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 8:02 PM

Phil reminds me of the first days of cross country practices. Where we would jog around the loop, stop and walk, jog some more, then I would look down at my watch, yell "shit! 20 seconds to beat 12 minutes," and take of in a sprint that Carl Lewis would admire... leaving Phil with the shock of getting punched in the stomach.

Phil on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 8:14 PM

holy crap, i forgot all about the "20 seconds to beat 12 minutes!" shit. Good times, definitely good times. My most distinct memory of cross country practice my sophmore year was running the back mile after only a single warmup mile and Doug and Mark Amick saying "we're going to run another mile, but you've probably had enough." Holy christ, did I have enough.

Seneca Park will know the fury of Natty Sci, even if I have to do it myself.

joe on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 9:19 PM

screw running! running is overrated. softball is the thing to do at seneca park...you get to see the bitches, you don't have to run and you look like you are doing something useful while looking at the bitches.

KellyHarrison on Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 9:44 PM

i prefer pilates. they hurt like hell, but they keep you in shape. like walking as well

Bambi on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 4:21 AM

All I have to say is THE FIRM baby!!!!!!! It busts your ass with all the climbing and lifting. My butt is smaller and my chest is awesome!!!! And Phil you're gonna hate me, but I like to cheat and run on the treadmill, its so much easier than running outside!!!

Tom Jones on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 5:32 AM

Any exercise routine will help get you in shape as long as you stick to it and watch your diet. The more often you work out and the higher the intensity, the better the results. Although I will say, some people are just blessed with a better metabolism than others.

Plow King on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 6:04 AM

I second Joe's motion; softball is definitely the way to go at Seneca. Unless of course it's one of those damn coed leagues that make you hit from the opposite side of the plate. I'd like to kill the ass that started that.

And I prefer to use an elliptical machine to running. I'd like to be able to walk when I'm 50.

KellyHarrison on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 7:04 AM

bambi, what is the firm? i feel ya on the treadmill thing. it's much easier.

Tom Jones on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:12 AM

WOW, Kelly asking a question, well I'll say that's better than you assuming something and getting it totally wrong.

Tom Jones on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:15 AM

I can't run on concrete unless I am chasing or being chased, my knees/ankles are too messed up for that. Outdoors isn't that bad.

Bigworm on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:27 AM

The Power 90 exercise program is pretty good. When I was actually using it I lost about 25 pounds and toned up some after about a month to a month and a half.

If people just watch what they eat and exercise it doesn't matter which program you use. The hard thing is to stick with it.

Bigworm on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:30 AM

Is anyone doing anything tonight? If anyone wants to see Van Helsing let me know.

Bigworm on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:40 AM

Does anyone else have to deal with retarded freaking customers? I swear if a representative from PTI was here I would probably get fired due to choking their ignorant asses like Bill did Brock.

No Schweitzer, I am not calling you an ignorant ass.

Phil on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:45 AM


The Sports Guy on Friends vs the O.C. Our generation's Roe v Wade.

Tom Jones on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 9:46 AM

I deal with morons, idiots, and simpletons all the time. That is why I am not allowed to carry a fire arm, is due to the fact that they are afraid I will shoot someone

Green Baron on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 10:28 AM

Don't complain to me about working with morons....
I have to work with Brock

mowgli on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 10:38 AM

Damn woman, can you be more blatant about your ass and chest...reaching are we...and you don't run at all, period. Sorry, I didn't want to be the only couple on nattysci.com to bash each other(marc and kelli)...I guess I should call you an assclown or something now...

and I'm out....

Phil on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 11:38 AM

Britney got a tatoo in Hebrew, only it came out gibberish (scroll down): http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4893210

Reminds me of the McSweeney open letter to the customers at the Tattoo parlor. "Shout-out to the girl who wanted the Japanese kanji for 'luck' to represent her Irish heritage. "

Brock on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 12:35 PM

Wes, who is Bill and when the hell did he choke me?

joe on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 1:09 PM

i think the best workout is the 12 oz. curl. I am riding this metabolism thing as long as possible.

Wrecking Crew on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 2:14 PM

Screw running and any other sort of aerobic exercise that's good for your heart. It's all about throwing around some iron to see how big you can get. That way you can beat hte shit out of someone instead of running like a little girl.

Church on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 3:38 PM

Phil I got 25 hits from the sci site this week, how many did you all get from mine

Phil on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 3:55 PM

100 hits from your site this month.

About 30 hits from the Jeff Hostetler Fanclub

Church on Friday, May 07, 2004 at 6:45 PM

Damn, I need to get a few more links set up, see if Can't double it next month.

Tom Jones on Saturday, May 08, 2004 at 7:08 AM

Well you know how we do up in the NYC.

Fuck Jeff Hostetler that SOB!!

Phil on Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 2:39 AM

No matter how many times I ask, now matter how certain I may seem, nobody EVER let me eat White Castle again.

I think I just threw up Satan's poop.

Bigworm on Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 6:43 AM

Last night get crazy for you guys are just a Saturday night?

Phil on Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 7:58 AM

Mother's day madness at Captain's Quarters. Two and a half hour wait in the bar for a table = quite a few beers consumed. Add on to that the evil White Castles, and you get not good times.

Of course, in retrospec, I did order the whities without onions thinking that my stomache would be happier. Perhaps the white castle gods where smiting me.

Phil on Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 9:49 AM

in less gross news, Bubba Ho-Tep is slated for DVD release soon: http://www.bubbahotep.com/dvd/

Jay on Monday, May 10, 2004 at 3:30 PM

Saturday, I thought Big Jay was gonna have to choke a bitch. My cousin's husband lost his god damn mind and wanted to kill all of us. It was pretty crazy.

Bigworm on Monday, May 10, 2004 at 3:46 PM

Was drinking involved?

KellyHarrison on Monday, May 10, 2004 at 7:30 PM

what happened?

Joanna, the make up thing is next monday? i just want to make sure so i have the right day off of work for it.

Church on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 7:03 AM

Phil you want the addresses for the archnemesis section

Tom Jones on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 7:50 AM

Why do I feel like I am gettin set up for something?

Marc on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 7:56 AM


NOTE: If you want to share these videos with your close friends please feel free to do so. even download them to your computer if you wish. just please don't post to larger well-established sites that might cause too much traffic (ie: fark, ebaumsworld, milkandcookies) because I don't want to take the chance of anything bad happening. Also there can be possible copyright issues even though these are broadcasted free on the airwaves. thanks

(1) Oddball news - dog long-jumping into pools; Mexicans being each other with sticks; pigeons; nazi's and more

(2) SNL'S TV Funhouse presents "Pothead Theater"

(3) Snoop Dogg talks about how devastated he is now that Friends has ended. (Snoop re-enacts the Friends opening with the fountain and umbrellas)

(4) Young boy goes fishing and catches something. He struggled with all his might and was able to catch a 200 pound shark.


Marc on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 9:04 AM

Cute Scarlett Johanson (cute girl from Lost in Translation, Man Who Wasn't There, Ghost World, Eight-Legged Freaks, Home Alone 3, and more ) had sex with ugly Bencino Del Toro( Traffic, The Pledge, Excess Baggage, Usual Suspects, 21 Grams, etc) is an elevator.

If they had children they'd made cute-ugly babies. so basically, they'd look like pugs or bulldogs.

Tom Jones on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 9:16 AM

Messed up. Yikes, I bet that cooch has got some crabs or something by now.

Raul Duke on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 10:42 AM

Yeah, I'll bet Jeff Hostetler's been there.

Phil on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 11:25 AM

what lady hasn't jeff hostetler been all up in

Tom Jones on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 11:53 AM

talk shit all you want, but check out my site and see what I did to shitty Jeff Hostetler.

Raul Duke on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 12:05 PM

Perhaps its more important to consider<a href="http://scurvyprevention.blogspot.co...6">what Jeff did to you</a>.

Tom Jones on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 12:11 PM

I found this on goggle-this is great


Bigworm on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 1:26 PM

Does anyone else want to see some Christian Extremist step up and start terrorizing the Islamic Extremist? By God, we can send Billy Graham over there.

Brock on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 1:30 PM


Brock on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 3:29 PM

Ok, teasing and tormenting military prisoners is one thing, cutting off the heads of civilians is another:

I'm sure Wes is with me in saying that I'd fucking eat every one of those sonofabitches eyeballs and skull-fuck their eye-socket if I got my hands on them. Stripping them down naked and piling them in pyramids, that would be a fuckin' club med if I ran those prisons.

BUSH 2004!

adrian on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 5:18 AM

Skull Fuck? Thats some funny shit Brock

Plow King on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:46 AM

If you haven't seen the video, I highly recommend that you NOT watch it. It is profoundly disturbing. I wish I could get it out of my head.

Biggest mistake... ever.

hoban on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:20 AM

First off killing a POW should never happen however there have already been proven that 3 deaths occured in Iraqi Prison camps that were directly related to prison abuse and then were covered up. The problem with being pissed off like you are getting Brock is that not every Iraqi is responsible for these actions. Hell not every person in those camps are even guilty. In fact there were over a dozen released this week after finding that they were innocent. I agree that people should not be killed by extermists, but that is exactly what they are, extremists, they do not represent the majority and saying "lets just bomb the fuckers" or "skull fuck them" or whatever is the problem. That attitude is what caused the prison abuse and what might have led to this innocent person dying. For once look at things with a broad perspective for God's sake...

Tom Jones on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:44 AM

The problem that extremeists cause is making the rational middle sector of any population angry to the point that they start to say or do things they would not normally do.

I believe that video is going to hurt more Muslims and people in Iraq than it will help to stop overall abuse and bring a sane end to the war and occupation. Honestly, I don't believe they killed that guy for the prison incidents anyway. One of the guys in the tape is connected to Hezbola or one of those other groups. He did it just because the guy was American.

I think the video will give some of the nuts in the military a reason to continue unfair practices and will make the troops more untrusting of any Iraqi. Also, back here it could cause a backlash against Muslims.

It's all bullshit. When did the human race get so messed up?

Brock on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:48 AM

Once again, Hoban takes this absolutely bleeding heart perspective, and since he can't read, I'll explain in more detail my point of view.

First: I didn't say I wanted to bomb all the Iraqis, I simply said "eat every one of those sonofabitches eyeballs and skull-fuck their eye-socket," which was in reference to the extremists who cut some guy's head off who was only there to help the people. Those people aren't even Iraqi, ok, I won't say they all were not Iraqi, because I don't know. All I know is that group is Al-queda linked, and yup, they're in Iraq. The point of my rage is to get the focus on these psycho extremists, and yes, they are psychotic. If you saw someone's head off with a knife, you are fucked in the head.

Yes, POWs died in the prisons, but I don't think prison guard were sawing their heads off. Maybe roughing them up a little... that stuff happens in the U.S. You know why I don't mind prisoners getting roughed up? Because those interrogators beleive that they will save lives if they get information, and I agree. One humiliated Iraqi soldier versus 10 American soldiers killed in an ambush is an obvious trade.

The broad perspective you want me to take is easy: I know the majority of Iraqi citizens want freedom and peace, and are helping the cause (i.e. protesting Sadyr), so I don't have any anger toward them. Its those extremists, who would be doing this shit in Richmond, KY if they weren't busy doing it in Bagdhad.

Tom Jones on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 8:03 AM

This is why I really like this website.

You both offer valid points.

Brock I will say that if you see a partial list approved for release by the military, this wasn't just beating a guy to death-sodomy, electricution, pour sulfer and other chemicals on the prisoners. Some pretty bad stuff.

Hoban, there are some real degenerates in that prison that are guilty. I am not saying they should be abused, I am just saying that there are some real pieces of shit being held as POWS

Phil on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 8:05 AM

TJ: I normally keep my mouth shut about politics stuff, but you said they probably killed him just because he was american. He was also Jewish which probably sealed his fate when they found out.

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 8:36 AM

As usual, I tend to agree with Hoban's bleeding heart Liberal perspective. The decapitation was uncalled for and is sickening. The problem is that you knew something was going to happen in response to the prisoner abuse scandal. The supposed rules of war have been violated since the US refuses to abide by the Geneva Convention. The rash of abuses have generated a feeling amongst the Arab world and Iraqis that the Coalition regards them as subhuman. This should not be the case. Prisoner treatment in war is reciprocal, provided respect is shown on one side, the other side will reciprocate. This agreement has been scuttled.
Also, Brock your opinion skull fucking the culprits represents what is wrong with the American view of this conflict. When people want to settle scores and view Iraqis as not human, this is when trouble starts and abuse happens. So when this idiotic view is taken trouble occurs and the policy is dominated by the uneducated.

Tom Jones on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 8:52 AM

Phil I didn't know that he was Jewish. I figured being an American these days was worse than being Jewish, but maybe I am worng. Also, did they force that fact out of him or did he volunteer it. I would figure in a situation like that a person would say as little as possible.

Church-you are goingoff on one of your tangents again bro. Our POW's have been treated like shit since WW2. I know we are held to a higher standard and that is fine with me. However, prisoners should be treated with decency and respect for being human. If they're Martian-well we'll have to figure something out.
However, Church don't tell me you believe that the beheading is in retribution for the prisoners. I know you're smarter than that.

Also to all you all. Word is now leaking out that CIA, Black Ops Units, and higher military brass were at the prison for information extraction. Some of the things shown on the tapes and video, show that some things at that prison could not have been supplied by normal troops and that other US agencies were invloved. That, allbeit surprising, is not shocking.

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:02 AM

It's become oneupsmanship Rhino. All prisoners deserve to be treated under the statuts of the Geneva Convention. Remember that the Americans are currently an Army of Occupation. All of this would have never happened had the war been executed better

Tom Jones on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:03 AM

Preaching to the choir bro. I agree

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:04 AM

My problem is the attitude amongst some Americans to see all Arabs as subhuman terrorists. With the way it is going, there is no solution to Iraq unless they send in the Russians, than everything will be pacified

adrian on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:05 AM

Hoban, Church..Shut the Fuck Up!

And I am Outty

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:09 AM

Adrian you're a bitch. Remember that time Becca asked for your bill and her hands were full

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:39 AM

what do you mean "there is no solution to Iraq"? I mean it will magically be cleared up and hunky dorey by June 30. I mean that IS the deadline, right? We don't know who we'll be giving power to yet, or how or any details. but don't worry, theis long battle in the Middle East will finally be cleared up because we set a deadline. Gee, we should have thought of that sooner.

Sidenote: Does anyone find it odd that we our trying to structure a free democracy and elections in a place that may not want to embrace it, while OUR last election was a huge catastrophe. And also that we are trying to set up free elections in Iraq, while practically making sure we get who WE WANT in there?

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 9:43 AM

Marc, you're right. We'll force democracy on Iraq and create an electoral system where less than half the people vote and Nader runs every time

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 10:01 AM

I hate political, spirtual, economical (and more bandwagon jumping) Ie: i saw today a Univeristy of Mass. paper had a story telling how Pat Tillman was not a hero. People were outraged and the writer has failed to comment or show his face on campus since the article. One guy says, "how can you say that? He's oer there fighting for your freedom of speech." True, but if I can't use my freedom of speaech then I don't actually have it. Every one is entitled to there own opinion, and has the right to communicate it to others. If you don't like something doesn't mean you have to listen, but you don't have to take away ourt freedoms either. Damnit Janet, you're another example of this to.

People with their own agendas jump on causes all the time to get what they want done. I'm glad Tillman's frother and family said what they did at his funeral trying to not let others use his memory for their selfish cause. This happen all the time, and it pisses me off.

Brock on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 10:11 AM

So much to digest, but where to begin:

First, why SHOULD a retalliation be expected from the abuse scandel. People are acting like this the first time in human history that POWs were abused, this is one problem I have with the outcry, not to say I condone the abuse. TJ is right in saying this beheading probably didn't even have to do with the abuse, they did it because thats what extremists do, go to the extreme.
Explain to me why the Arab world would think the abuses are a result of Americans thinking they are subhuman. Arab countries don't exactly have a history of putting POWs into Hilton Hotels, which is what Abu Ghraib is compared to those. I agree with the Geneva Convention argument, and this will be addressed by the congressional hearings, but the logic of the administration is that terrorist cells and radical clerics don't adhere to the Geneva Convention, so what do we do with these prisoners?
Again, since I can't make this any clearer: I'm not referring to IRAQIs when I speak of chomping out eyeballs, I am speaking of terrorist organizations operating in Iraq, mainly made up of foreign nationals. Reading is good!
What you call "idiotic views" is simply a call for order. As we saw in the past, if we don't go after the extremists, they'll come after us. Its not like we woke a sleeping dog by doing all of this, they brought their issues to us!

My problems with some Americans: they claim the other half thinks Arabs are all terrorists. Good job on the hypocricy.

Would you be claiming the last election a catastrophe if Gore won? This is a lame argument because both sides would be complaining had it gone the other way. Its like arguing a strike call in baseball.

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 10:21 AM

Brock fucks goats

Tom Jones on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 10:25 AM

Honestly, there is no solution to a country that has been in turmoil and under some phsycopaths rule for many years. There is too much unrest in Iraqi. It's just like Central America and parts of South America, which in the last 15 years has proven more deadly to Americans than the Middle East. Where's the reporting on that?

Let the UN handle it and when they can't deal with it anymore they'll come back to us for support. I just don't want any more of our guys dying for a sandlot and for some rich guy to make more money of Iraqs oil.

As for Pat Tillman, just like anyone else in the service, they are heros, no matter what anyone thinks about the war, they still suited up and died for us and the country. We should respect them for it, since none of us have the balls to be over there right now. Not that I blame anyone for not going.

Terrorists are thugs, punks, and any other name you can think of. They come in all shapes and sizes and are from every place on this earth. It's too bad we can't round all of them up, kill them, and make the world a better place.

Bigworm on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 10:42 AM

Bush never said that everything will be hunky dorey by the June 30th deadline date. That is the date when the Iraqis finally have a say so alongside the US military for protection/defensive purposes.

We can't leave Iraq and we won't leave Iraq because atleast Bush realizes that if we do, then Al Sadyr or some other cleric who sides with the freaking extremists will gain control of certain cities in Iraq and we will have more than one dictator to freaking deal with.

As for Tillman how is he not a hero, yet Kerry is a decorated Vietnam vet/hero? I will tell you why. Simply because Kerry made it home. As far as I know, Tillman could have been shot 20 times compared to Kerry's few times and in the end Tillman and the others killed in action gave the ultimate sacrifce. Sure they did not choose death, but they did choose to fight for their country in an honorable way understanding that death could be a consequence of their chosen actions. In my book, he and the others are heroes.

adrian on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 11:19 AM

I am so fucking tired of hearing shit about Tillman. How come the media doesn't display a huge special devoted to EVERY individual that died in the War. Because that fucker played football they displayed him as some special person. Hundreds of people died in the war and do we hear anything about how they lived or what type of people they were?

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 11:22 AM

actually brock, although i still wish the 2000 election came out differently. i was actually talking about 5 weeks after the election, not knowing who would be the president. thus flaws in the sytsem itself, and ways it was carried out was a catastrophe. not the result.

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 11:29 AM

thank you adrian, that is the pount i was trying to make about Tillman. I don't know him, not saying that he isn't a hero. i was just bringing up the point that some people think it is wrong or "illegal" to get behind another thought process. Is Tillman a hero? Don't know, Does newspaper guy have right to express his thoughts on him not being a hero? Yes, Do you have to agree? no. i was merely talking about people arguing for their American-given rights, and then asking other not be able to use tehir American-given rights, like free speech. Do we like the Klan talking a rallys? hell, no. but they have the right. (those nazi fucks)

Green Baron on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 11:51 AM

The problem with any debate is that each side is usually too wrapped up in their own bullshit that they refuse to listen to the other side.

I got into a big argument with a fucker I used to be friends with, who kept claiming the US had found WMD (this was at the very beginning of the war), and wouldn't listen to me that it was complete bullshit; we attacked an unarmed nation. Then, instead of debating the point, he attacked me instead, saying "You democrats are all the same, I know your response before you even send it"

Yah, good one dumb fuck, except that I'm not a democrat; there's more than 2 idealogies moron.

Point is, believe what the fuck you want. When discussions hit close to home, people defend them against all logic. You're not going to convince people to say, "Oh yah, I'm full of shit". Therefore, I resigned. I realized ignorance is only countered by arrogance. Someone's always wrong, sometimes both people are wrong; but that won't switch someone's mind. Remember post Sept 11? You couldn't say anything against your government, it was just plain ludicrous. Who cares your perspective, you're wrong. That's the way people still feel when it comes to their ideas on this horseshit. Fuck it, think what you want. I don't care.

Fuck it, point is: I just plain don't like black people

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 11:58 AM

well stated ballz,

p.s. I just don't like mexicans like: Lucy Lui, Vin Diesel and The Rock. Because those shady bastards don't admit being mexican.

Tom Jones on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:20 PM

LMAO Marc-good one.

As for Tillman, the guy gave up the career making millions to go serve. I understand that the Armed Forces are using him to try to recruit. The NFL is using him to say how great their players are. Everyone is using Tillman, even the people that don't like him. I think Pat was trying to make a point by not talking to the media, that he was the same as everyone that was over there.

In the end, everyone who went over there and gave up their life, should have some public display, showing the gratitude of the people. The only reason it won't get televised because their wouldn't be any advertising money. It's all about the buck.

Green Baron on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:21 PM

at least there is some good news:


Bigworm on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:32 PM

Adrian, that is the point I made in my post. He is not a hero because he gave up football, he is a hero, like the rest of the armed service people who died (hence the use of they instead of he), because he gave his life for his country. Unfortunately, even those damn suicide bombers are considered heroes in their own communities.

Yes, their are more than 2 views to this war and thank God and our founding fathers of the greatest nation in the history of the world for realizing this early on and allowing us our freedoms we enjoy today. However, I really don't see that as the argument for the statement "Tillman is not a hero". I don't understand how someone cannot be a hero for serving their country proudly, so don't try to explain it to me, because in my eyes he and the rest of the armed service members are heroes and will always be heroes. They defend our freedoms and liberties on the frontline of every ugly war/military campaign we have ever and will ever be involved in, thus allowing people like us to have shitty debates on important (or meaningless depending if you are or not) topics.

Phil on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:37 PM

the guy who wrote the mass article has apologized btw. Of course, it was after basically every newspaper columnist in the world, including al-jizzmop, called him a stupid kid who doesn't have much of a world view. he really went off the deep end saying things like the only reason tillman went to war was to kill them damn Arabs. Pretty ignorant stuff.

adrian on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:39 PM

I am just sick and tired of Tillman personally being singled out when there were hundreds of other people who died and we don't hear shit about them. If the media talks about one person, they should talk about them all because personall...Tillman isn't any more special than any other Soldier/Reserve who went to Iraq with him

Bigworm on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:47 PM

You are right in that respect. He was an American Soldier. However, this doesn't sell anything by stating that. What does sell however is ex-football star turned soldier dies for his country. The media knows this and will exploit that, just like they do.

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 12:55 PM

for the love of god, if they turn it(Tillman's story) into a movie of the week. i'll firebomb them (the media). or i could let brock skullfuck them, since he's a fan of that method.

Raul Duke on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 1:06 PM

Yet another example of today's lack of journalism. Edward R. Murrow, these ass-clowns are not.

Its somewhat representative of the overall lack of self-respect (i.e. responsibility for your own actions) and generally selfish nature (me first, look how important I am attitude) of today's typical American. WTF is an army of one anyway (besides Jeff Hostetler)?

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 1:19 PM

"Army of One" starring Dulph Lungren

I like how the user comments rate the movie only as "DECENT"

Green Baron on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 1:24 PM


Send Dulph and these two guys:

These three could so kick everyone's ass. In fact, send over Ninja Jackson too, he'd skull-fuck every one of them and their goats....

Phil on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 1:33 PM

One way to answer ALL the worlds problems:
Johnathan Cabot is a champion gymnast. In the tiny, yet savage, country of Parmistan, there is a perfect spot for a "star wars" site. For the US to get this site, they must compete in the brutal "Game". The government calls on Cabot, the son of a former operative, to win the game. Cabot must combine his gymnastics skills of the west with fighting secrets of the east and form GYMKATA!

Bigworm on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 1:41 PM

Best line ever from Action Jackson, "You're breathing my air".

Church on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:04 PM

You cannot mention action films with out the classic motown production: The Last Dragon starring Bruce Leroy and a soundtrack by El Debarge

KellyHarrison on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:41 PM

damn those fuckers who raised the gas to 2.00 and then some!
heard a rumor there's a strike on the nineteenth. hope it's true. strike for no one to get gas that day i mean. don't know if its true or not. you all hear about the internet brawl in texas?

Phil on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 2:47 PM

gas strikes are perhaps the most pointless things ever. if you strike for one day, no big deal, they'll make their profit over the next three days. hell, they might just jack the prices up the next few days just to spite some people.

then there are the fools who says "we'll boycott the big companies like Chevron!" Yeah, and all the other gas stations jack up their prices to compensate for the high demand. all the while the people who actually set the prices for crude oil are still selling at the same rate, while everyone else gets fucked.

if you want to do something about gas prices, you'll have to start using less gas.

funny story, on comedy central they were talking about gas prices and mentioned that we are still paying half of what germany pays. and england. and switerland. and russia. then he said "you know, since we're the only country actually defending the oil, i think we are entitled to a little employee discount."

KellyHarrison on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 3:05 PM

isn't gas 5.00 somewhere?

Marc on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 3:20 PM

gas and oil are not actually at a shortage. it's refinarys that are in shortage. some companies have even closed refinaries down recently that were doing well, and producing good amounts. who knows, maybe companies want to produce less, for more money. possibily gas prices may lower before elections. can't wait for fuel-cell cars.

Bigworm on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 3:38 PM

The world works by supply and demand, go figure. Yes gas is really expensive in Europe, hence the reason why scooters are popular there.

mowgli on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 4:13 PM

Apparently, Bellarmine is becoming a prime area for car jackings...This was a recient email I got from the BCPD...

On Monday May 10, 2004 at approximately 5:15 PM an armed robbery occurred on campus in the parking lot adjacent the Golf Shop. The victim stated that shortly after his arrival in the parking lot to play golf an older model, red, Oldsmobile Cutlass approached and a black male got out of the vehicle. The black male walked up to the victim with a gun and demanded his wallet and car keys. The victim immediately complied, the perpetrator entered the victim’s vehicle and left campus followed by the red Oldsmobile Cutlass. The perpetrator was described as a black male in his mid twenties, approximately 6 feet tall and 185 lbs.
Bellarmine University has always been proud of our outstanding safety record through the years so we are alarmed by this incident and ask that all the community be aware of their surroundings as a routine safety precaution. Contact Security to report any unusual or suspicious activity. The incident is under investigation by the Louisville Metro Police Department and anyone having any information concerning the incident should contact them at 502-574-7636 or 574-7111 or notify Bellarmine University Security Office at 473-3333 and we will pass any information to the Police.

First, random crazy guys in the parking lot asking Wes and I about Karate classes, now this...

Brock on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 6:15 PM

That is nothing! On Monday, two 14 year old black kids robbed a UC student with a shotgun in broad daylight. And they wonder why the Cincy police are racial profiling. When was the last time you heard two 14 year old girls in catholic school girl outfits robbing somoene with a shotgun. The only thing they rob is Lynnie's willpower.

adrian on Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 5:25 AM

It also doesn't help gas prices when you have Terrorists on Camels blowing up oil pipelines in Iraq.

On a side note...
I think we should deplpoy a couple of MOABS on fourth of July in Iraq. I am sure they would appreciate a nice loud fireworks display.

Wow, I think this is my longest post ever

Church on Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 5:42 AM

I heard somewhere there is new footage of the Cincy cops beating the hell out of some old dude

Tom Jones on Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 7:20 AM

Gas per liter in Europe is over $5 or something-ask Raul he knows. Oh yeah, btw Raul FUCK JEFF HOSTETLER.

Please, I got car jacked a couple blocks from SLU at a gas station. The thought they were going to get my car. I just ran after them and jumped back in. Only thing that happened was a dented bumper and a ricochet mark of a 9mm hollowpoint.

14 year olds?? Man just grab the gun from them and beat them with it, then steal everything from them. Their minors, they can't do shit.

Cincy and Louisville Police both suck-they both have hassled me, along with Chicago. NYC were just cursed at me. Fuck em

Church on Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 7:36 AM

Someone needs to solve the problem with gas prices and only one man has the acumen to do it:Jeff Hostetler

Tom Jones on Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 8:00 AM

LMAO Church, that's great. Fuck Hostetler and you too lol

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